We already know that there's going to be some sort of a full loot system but i personally think there should be more to dying still. The 2 things i've always wanted is a tiered xp loss system and some sort of short term incapacitation after dying.

The tiered xp system would work something like this:

So at the very first levels when you just started you wont actually loose any xp at all to give the new players a chance to get on their feet. The percentage you do loose will then rise nearly exponentially after a certain level. This way, it will in a way, even out a fight between a lower level player and high level player in that the high level player has more to risk.

Now before everyone starts complaining about possible 'gank squads' draining away their hard earned skills, i think both xp loss and also looting should vary according to different zones. So for example, there could be 3 types of zones:
Safe, which would be the starter areas and the major cities etc;
pvp/open, the border areas and possibly the more common high level pve areas;
war, the areas where guilds will be fighting for bases and such.

So in the 'safe' zones there would be minimal loot and very low if any xp loss, in the 'pvp/open' areas there would be normal looting and low xp loss and in the 'war' zones there would be full looting and normal xp loss. This would all have to be balanced in beta of course but thats just an example. Also, the big feature, is that if your flagged as a criminal you are always on full loot even if your in a safe area.

With this sort of a system, instead of it getting easier and easier as you rise through the ranks, you'll get more of a challenge instead. PVP will have more of a risk so it will be more calculated and people wont want to risk going after lowbies for no reason. Newbies will have more of a chance to get going.  It also extends the life of the game in that when you reach the high levels and are undertaking the more risky gameplay options you have to keep working to keep your skills up so it automatically helps dissipate the whole 'end game' problem.

Now the short term incapacitation thing has been talked about a bit in another thread so i wont go into it much. I just think there should be something along the lines of your skills being temporarily lowered so it takes a bit of time (5 minutes?) to get back to full strength and able to go and fight again. This would definitely make a difference in guild wars in that if you kill someone they cant just come straight back into the fight.

I think i've left something out but hopefully it will come up in discussion.

There aren't going to be levels but your still going to have to do a certain amount to get each skill up and im hoping its not just time based. So while you may not call it xp it should still be possible.

And if less people take the risk then the people that do take the risk will gain the bonus from it and have a bigger advantage. With more risk should come more reward.

It just concerns me that looting isnt really going to be a big risk. When they talk about the skills system they said that its partly done so items dont play as big a part, couple that with insurance and i dont think it will be that big a deal loosing some items.

Just full looting.

It's allready enough of a pain, if you've to work for getting your stuff back I think. Just balance it out right, how long it takes you to get the money for a standard set of equipment and we're fine.

I think it has to be more than just full looting, or you aren't doing anything to slow down people that will just buy a set of standard equipment to go killing lowbies in, and just buy a new set when they get killed by a higher level PC.

I think losing all of your equipment is the perfect consequence. That way it hurts when you die but you don't have to deal with retarded exp loss.

You were obviously never part of a good corp out in 0.0 space in eve then, I was constantly either attacking or defending in groups no matter what the odds or going out by myself if i had to and loosing a lot of ships. People are ALWAYS going to gang up for better odds, it is going to happen in Earthrise, maybe not tot he extent your talking about but it will happen.

Im not saying xp loss is the answer but looting isnt gong to be enough since items aren't going to be a big deal and you can insure them anyway.

No our corp was quite small as it was aussies only and because of time differences no one else in our alliance was usually on. You cant say no one will pvp because of the risk, thats just not true at all, im going to be going solo pvp and id still do it with harsher risk's than even im proposing.

Earthrise is already going to have risk associated with pvp, its just a matter of how much and i dont think looting will be sufficient. Because as i've said they're making it so items dont count as much and you can insure them. Thats my problem.