Okay.. So this has been bothering me a bit for a while and I have just been letting it build up in my brain before I make a post. I understand that Earthrise is going to be more RPG than FPS, but still we are using guns.

Lets talk about cooldowns. What are they good for? Why are they even needed?

Well in my opinion cooldowns should not be needed if there will be ammunition. (Really... I would like to stray away from mmo's that still keep cooldowns. In all honesty it is not realistic at all.) If there was just imaginary bullets that just come out of no where, than I would understand. But there is not! We actually have to buy ammunition. So why not instead of having a cooldown for no reason after each burst (really does a gun have to cooldown after each burst?) why not just put in ammunition clips? So after each clip you go through you have a brief cooldown because than you would be reloading which makes WAY more sense than having a cooldown for no reason. If you have an energy weapon why not put an overheat indicator? As long as you still have energy left in the power cell and do not over heat the gun. Than you should be allowed to keep on firing. If you do overheat you will have a brief cooldown.

Really MS should just remove ammunition all together if they are not aiming for something more FPS. It is really just unnecessary in my eyes to add ammunition if you are aiming to be an RPG. I am sorry but Sci-fi games should be more FPS than RPG. It just logical and does not make sense to make it an RPG since we are using guns.

Edit: This is all coming from a guy that plays FPS games. I always relate guns with FPS. Never with RPG. In my opinion you are restricting my use of how I use my gun. Also you are making it like a sword game Aka WoW, EQ, etc.. except with guns..

100% agree Joker. When it comes to guns I would rather reloading times rather than cooldowns which are fine for melee combat. It just feels more natural (intuitive), helps immersion and gives me a greater sense of control. Probably too late at this stage to change it so hopefully the system they have in place is as involved as they say it will be.

I personally don't feel that some of the immersion factor
will be removed due to "cooldown" period on shooting,
quite the opposite actually. This is the case because
we are in a sci-fi setting, and as such, we have more
efficient (etc, etc) weapons. I feel that cooldown period
on weapons is actually okay, due to this reason. Also,
I do not want to have to worry about reloading as well as
keeping an eye on my abilities, imo this takes more
of the attention off the actual combat.
But this is my opinion .

Just because you have ammo, does not mean your using bullets, least not in the conventional sense anyway. We also don't know how the cool downs work for each weapon, it is quite possible a semi automatic weapon will have a higher rate of fire than what we have seen, with specials such as burst etc needing a cool down to let the gun cool.

But what I would really like to point out is this, very very very few FPS guns fire realistically, even in America's army the guns were suped up to make them cooler. A lot of the guns have higher rates of fire, lower rates of fire, more or less recoil, massively decreased load times, much higher levels of accuracy, much longer sustained fire etc etc etc. So arguing that this system is not realistic, is like arguing that Middle earth is not a fantasy world because its not like Narnia.

I wanted to say something along those lines.

Ever fired a mortar? I bet it has a "cooldown" of around 20 secs if you have to do it all yourself.
Besides, no cooldown? Doesnt that turn everything in a sort of a laser? A continues stream of bullets?

Or am I misinterpertating stuff?

He also mentioned a .5 second cool down.

But personally I find the cooldowns too long.

And technically cool downs in ER is different from the weapon rate of fire:

If your basic attack is on cool down, you can still shoot special attack abilities with your weapon.

In the MMORPG.com vids we can see the power strike and punishing strike abilities are not greyed out while the weapon basic attack is in cool down. From what I can see someone could fire off a basic shot, a power strike, and a punishing strike all while the weapon basic attack is in cool down.

Think of the basic attack as the replacement for auto attack, but you have to choose to press that attack or another more powerful, or one with a different effect, an auto attack always had a cooldown.

So are you saying that if I fire off an m4 in rl that I will have a cooldown between each shot? Because I would think the main time I would stop would be for reloading and for aiming (also for barrel heat and jam but these are on occasions or happen very very rarely). All I am agruing is that cooldowns are simply not rate of fire. Should never been rate of fire. The deciding factor of rate of fire should be the person or the guns restriction (semi auto, auto, etc...) 


Now, I am starting to feel like this was a dumb idea to post because ER is soft lock. Also there is no hitboxes. So it really does not matter about aiming (so they add cooldowns to compensate) . I just guess I am saying that I am sick of click, fire, wait ( only difference is soft lock). I do not get why they say it will be fast paced combat because in all honest cooldowns only slow down combat.  Maybe I do not get the combat system as well still... Maybe it is just like any other mmo out there (basic fundamentals just a little bit twicked..)