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edit: wait you barely answered the question

So. I have a missile, and I have pulse strike.

Will a "better" missile result in a "better" pulse strike? To what degree will it be "better"? Is pulse strike based on the existing missile strength, e.g. a missile that does "10" damage will result in a pulse strike that does ... 5 damage per second where a missile that does "20" damage will result in one that does 10 damage per second?


So IOW the missile ability "pulse strike" may have a description / effect that reads something like: "Fires a missile that has a continuing AoE effect where it is fired: damage is XX% of the base damage of your rocket launcher per level"

Is this correct?

oh yeah, one last thing: Without friendly fire that ability sounds like it would be hilariously overpowered to spam with about 10 people right on top of your own melee guys.

I;m not sure why everyone's so positive that its a percentage thing. There's also the probability ability effects are tiered just like in WAR.

Higher rated BR gear will increase ability power.  I would gander that vendor gear vs top rare gear will have a vast difference in power.

I think everybody is going the wrong direction with this anyways.

I think a lot of people are reading this as "rocket launcher 2 gives a +10% to pulse strike" when I think my explanation is far more likely given what we know.

I highly doubt that there will be a direct "bonus" to ANY skill. Perhaps either due to the way they're wording it, maybe even translation issues almost, it's not entirely clear, but I'm personally pretty sure that when they talk about abilities scaling with weaponry they mean that because you're using a better base weapon, your ability produces better results.

It's just weird they'd go so far afield to explain something as simple as this in such a convoluted way, so other explanations are possible, but my guess is that we're simply being told "ability effects rely on the underlying stats of the weapon or item that you're using".  I think this got sort of taken and ran with in the wrong direction by the community, as far as predictions on what this actually means.

Can somebody just Copy-Paste the actual description of the ability or something?  Or better yet screenshot the decsription of a whole host of abilities and post them?



In an attempt to clarify my thoughts on this:



1) Get Rocket Launcher Equipment Skill 1 -> Able to equip crappy launchers (30 damage, 5s rate of fire, made up stats obv)
2) Get Rifle Equipment Skill * (for illustration purposes later) -> Able to equip crappy rifles
3) Invest EXP in to "Pulse Strike" Skill -> Unlock Pulse Strike, does X% of base rocket damage to area for Y seconds
4) You can now choose to just "shoot a rocket", or you can choose to fire a Pulse Strike
5) Equip Rifle -> Now you can no longer choose to fire a pulse strike, as, obviously, you no longer have rockets
(Similarly, invest EXP in to "Power Shot" skill for energy weapons -> Equip Rocket Launcher.... can't Power Shot with a rocket!)
6) Re-Equip Rocket Launcher
7) Get Equipment skill to 3 -> Able to equip MEGADEATH rocketlaunchers (100 damage, 2s rate of fire, because balance is for sissies)
8.) Invest -more- EXP in to "Pulse Strike Skill -> Pulse strike now does X+5% of base rocket damage for Y + 2 seconds



-ALTERNATIVELY-

Get Rocket Launcher Equipment Skill to 1
Invest EXP In to "Rocket Launcher Ability tree" -> Unlock "useless rocket ability 1"
Invest MORE EXP in to "Rocket Launcher Ability tree" -> Unlock "Devestating Nuclear Blast"
Invest EVEN MORE EXP -> Unlock "Pulse Strike"



I'm not sure which of those it is, though given the "you can invest points in to whatever ability you feel like" Rhetoric, I'm thinking the first one.



Oh and I seem to remember there NOT being -any- vendor gear in ER, the stated goal is to have all equipment player crafted, and NPCs to not sell ANY of it.  So, uh, yeah, no vendor gear.  I think the comparison you're looking for here is "items produced only with common materials" vs. "Lucky epic crafting + rare materials + designs".  And then there's, of course "the stuff everybody uses to PvP with consistently".  I'd say maximum difference between "very basic" gear and "top grade" gear should be around 25-30% stat difference maximum (in most cases), and the range between "stuff noobs actually use" and "stuff veterans actually use", maybe more like 10% between them.  Noticeable but not omgwtfbbqpwn.

edit: I'm apparently mentally deficient, and there will be crappy vendor gear. ohwell.

You DO read what info comes from the devs right? Kids, please ignore this erroneous statement. As qeloqoo points out there is definitely gear from NPCs that is cheap throw-away gear.

We know vendor gear sucks, we've had discussions on nearly naked masses swarming higher-BR targets for profit.

Ok, I get it, I was wrong.  That does happen from time to time.

Can we get back to the actual topic instead of nitpicking my fact error on a basically-unrelated point?

+1 internets for everybody else who pointed out that I'm a failure.

Now about abilities ....

Not what I meant.  You don't get a BONUS 10% damage is what I meant. e.g. rocket launcher 2 does 10 more damage than 1, it -ALSO- boosts Pulse Strike 10% independent of this. I realize that this is probably not how it's going to work, which was the point of my post (that the 10% increase in damage simply comes from equipping a better Rocket Launcher, which is the most obvious explanation of the information we have, and also why I wrote that they seemed to have said something very simple in a very convoluted way)


Sure, no argument there, especially given the very limited information we have.

I meant that our discussion about what the heck masthead is actually trying to say was going in the wrong direction, not that the discussion itself was a bad idea.  Some people (seemed) to be drawing conclusions that were more complex than the simpler answer (a rocket that does more damage results in a pulse strike that does more damage, which should be a quite simple statement to make)


Hmm, ok, modify the above to

1) Get Rocket Launcher Equipment Skill 1 -> Able to equip crappy launchers (30 damage, 5s rate of fire, made up stats obv)
2) Get Rifle Equipment Skill * (for illustration purposes later) -> Able to equip crappy rifles
3) Invest EXP in to "Pulse Strike" Skill -> Unlock Pulse Strike, does X% of base rocket damage to area for Y seconds
4) You can now choose to just "shoot a rocket", or you can choose to fire a Pulse Strike
5) Equip Rifle -> Now you can no longer choose to fire a pulse strike, as, obviously, you no longer have rockets
(Similarly, invest EXP in to "Power Shot" skill for energy weapons -> Equip Rocket Launcher.... can't Power Shot with a rocket!)
6) Re-Equip Rocket Launcher
7) Get Equipment skill to 3 -> Able to equip MEGADEATH rocketlaunchers (100 damage, 2s rate of fire, because balance is for sissies)
8.) Invest -more- EXP in to "Pulse Strike Skill -> Unlock tactics that allow you to either: Increase Duration, OR increase damage per increment (simple examples, tactics may be able to interact in more complex ways of course)


In the secondary example you can't grab the nuke right off the bat.  It was an alternative explanation of how free-form the skills might or might not be

That there's a "rocket launcher skill" (different from or the same as the equipment skill), which has several levels, and each level of the "rocket launcher skill" unlocks new abilities / tactics.  I put it in for completeness but I pointed out that it's relatively unlikely that this is the case.